Andy and I rented a couple bikes
rode by the station
took the ferry across the channel
took a short ride and set up for another kla.tv interview at Maartje van den Berg’s place. Like a good, informed citizen, she has studied the matter of Smart Cities and tells us what we can expect (unless we act), given her experience in Amsterdam and The Netherlands.
Click above for the 21-minute interview, or see it on kla.tv here.
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