I am still steaming about Lahaina, and how easily some dismissed it as typical arson. 3 summers working for the Forest Service as a firefighter here, and though still JMHO, the probability of so many improbable unnatural anomalies does not logically lead to a typical arson or natural probability. The 15 minute city is proceeding as planned. Michigan 'burn barrel' my ass. At best, it appears that bayesian logic and other modes of pattern recognition appear to be only a post-hoc, pre-selective part of the tool kit for those absorbed in self promotion or self interest. But what do I know? I am just another conspiracy theorist.
A former acquaintance dismissed even spending time to view links I sent (much less my own experience as a firefighter) pointing to the probability of DEWs. He was certain enough of his own anecdotal experience as a child in Michigan watching molten metal pour from back yard burn barrels (and yet the barrel remains intact?), that he wrote up a substack dismissing the existence of technology capable of such precise destruction (as if he would be privy to such information to begin with) or the government's complicity in either instigating or trying to cover up such a conspiracy. In fact, his advice was to let the government handle the aftermath of what appears to him as common, run-of-the-mill arson.
I don't know whether such confidence in a childhood memory is due to a lack of imagination, empathy, or simply the naive self-interest of someone who believes he and his family are safe from such similar strategic warfare by the ruling class. If nothing else, someone with more confidence in a childhood memory than my professional training experience indicates what someone with such charisma thinks of me. I have better things to do with my time than to meet for shits and giggles over a beer with such people.
I now have saved and downloaded well over a couple of hundred videos highlighting the following and more:
— buildings reduced to white ash while adjacent trees remain standing - some even green,
— the unusually high number of trees burning from the inside out, and in a "brush fire?"
— glass as well as molten metal from cars while the pavement they were sitting on remains untouched,
— the church roof slit by what appears to be laser precision,
— the structures of the bodies of frogs-cats-people intact but appearing as if flash-frozen or baked in a micro-wave,
— the more than shady rolls of new "local" Police Chief John Pelletier, Gov. Josh Green, the sudden failure of existing infrastructure to protect the locals, and the just as sudden building of new infrastructure at the expense of the locals,
— the as yet to be co-ordinated official response as to why the winds from a typhoon over 500 miles away were too high for helicopter search and rescue — while a couple of Sikorsky SeaHawks were caught on smart phones during the fire — each with their Identification numbers covered with tape and each mounted with what appears to a Raytheon Multispectral Targeting System in the nose. I guess the fact that at the time of the Lahaina "arson", exercise Talisman Sabre had nothing to do with it ... https://www.defense.gov/Multimedia/Experience/Exercise-Talisman-Sabre/ ... "Not Just an Exercise" ... had nothing to do with Lahaina and the government's involvement.
Just yesterday, even NHK propaganda ... uh ... "news" ... spent 5 minutes sharing information about how the Ukranian proxy war is a fertile testing ground for 'progress' in the weaponization of drone technology. Of course the powers that be would never dream of weaponizing germ and chemical technology or direct energy beams / particles ... much less use this against their own disposable work force, uh, "citizens".
Hi Roger. Too bad we are (probably) separated by an ocean, otherwise we might be tipping back a mug. I shared a bit of a sip with NJ Election Advisor on his recent trip to Japan. He helped restore a bit of faith in humanity.
At night, when it's dark, I can see the flames from my residence. As the crow flies, I live about 7 or 8 miles away and in an open area, so I am in no danger from this. Unless the wind shifts direction and blows the smoke my way, I am not impacted personally at all. I do know people who live near the fire, friends who are probably a mile or two away. They have every reason to be concerned, especially if the wind changes and drives the flames down the slope, putting them and their homes in jeopardy.
If this fire had started a month or six weeks ago, it would have exploded violently out of control due to an extended period of very hot (100+ degrees) and dry weather. At that time, the forests in this area were tinder dry and. if ignited, could have easily created a monster which might have dwarfed the Lolo Peak fire from 2017. However, it's late August, the weather has cooled down considerably, and we've had some rain, intermittent at times, but also drenching downpours. The conditions for a massive wildfire have changed dramatically over the last few weeks which is good for those who live in the area.
That being said, the question arises as to how this fire should be handled. In an intense debate with some friends on a local group thread, I stated that it should be allowed to burn out and only monitored until it seemed like it might threaten homes and buildings of property owners, at which point protective measures should be implemented. There was some strong opposition to this, with one view being expressed that every effort should be taken to stamp it out as it could, if allowed to burn, create a hazard and risk for homeowners.
Well, it might, but there are is no certainty that it will. Considering everything, odds are that it won't, even if it burned unimpeded. At least, that is my opinion, for what it's worth.
As a society, we have to come to grips with the reality within our national forests. Due to restrictions and prohibitions on logging, clear-cutting, and thinning, plus the Smokey Bear mentality that every fire MUST be extinguished immediately, the forests are now clogged with undergrowth and litter which guarantees that, once a fire starts, it will burn hotter and more destructively than it would have if proper management had been implemented. Clear thinking and logical reasoning should be the drivers of forest policy rather than emotional ignorance and refusal to make the hard choices which are necessary to ensure the long-term health and well-being of these treasures, the national forests which we call "ours".
I am still steaming about Lahaina, and how easily some dismissed it as typical arson. 3 summers working for the Forest Service as a firefighter here, and though still JMHO, the probability of so many improbable unnatural anomalies does not logically lead to a typical arson or natural probability. The 15 minute city is proceeding as planned. Michigan 'burn barrel' my ass. At best, it appears that bayesian logic and other modes of pattern recognition appear to be only a post-hoc, pre-selective part of the tool kit for those absorbed in self promotion or self interest. But what do I know? I am just another conspiracy theorist.
Steve, can you give an example of what you're describing in the third-to-last sentence?
And can you explain Michigan "burn barrel"? I've never heard the term before.
A former acquaintance dismissed even spending time to view links I sent (much less my own experience as a firefighter) pointing to the probability of DEWs. He was certain enough of his own anecdotal experience as a child in Michigan watching molten metal pour from back yard burn barrels (and yet the barrel remains intact?), that he wrote up a substack dismissing the existence of technology capable of such precise destruction (as if he would be privy to such information to begin with) or the government's complicity in either instigating or trying to cover up such a conspiracy. In fact, his advice was to let the government handle the aftermath of what appears to him as common, run-of-the-mill arson.
I don't know whether such confidence in a childhood memory is due to a lack of imagination, empathy, or simply the naive self-interest of someone who believes he and his family are safe from such similar strategic warfare by the ruling class. If nothing else, someone with more confidence in a childhood memory than my professional training experience indicates what someone with such charisma thinks of me. I have better things to do with my time than to meet for shits and giggles over a beer with such people.
I now have saved and downloaded well over a couple of hundred videos highlighting the following and more:
— buildings reduced to white ash while adjacent trees remain standing - some even green,
— the unusually high number of trees burning from the inside out, and in a "brush fire?"
— glass as well as molten metal from cars while the pavement they were sitting on remains untouched,
— the church roof slit by what appears to be laser precision,
— the structures of the bodies of frogs-cats-people intact but appearing as if flash-frozen or baked in a micro-wave,
— the more than shady rolls of new "local" Police Chief John Pelletier, Gov. Josh Green, the sudden failure of existing infrastructure to protect the locals, and the just as sudden building of new infrastructure at the expense of the locals,
— the as yet to be co-ordinated official response as to why the winds from a typhoon over 500 miles away were too high for helicopter search and rescue — while a couple of Sikorsky SeaHawks were caught on smart phones during the fire — each with their Identification numbers covered with tape and each mounted with what appears to a Raytheon Multispectral Targeting System in the nose. I guess the fact that at the time of the Lahaina "arson", exercise Talisman Sabre had nothing to do with it ... https://www.defense.gov/Multimedia/Experience/Exercise-Talisman-Sabre/ ... "Not Just an Exercise" ... had nothing to do with Lahaina and the government's involvement.
Just yesterday, even NHK propaganda ... uh ... "news" ... spent 5 minutes sharing information about how the Ukranian proxy war is a fertile testing ground for 'progress' in the weaponization of drone technology. Of course the powers that be would never dream of weaponizing germ and chemical technology or direct energy beams / particles ... much less use this against their own disposable work force, uh, "citizens".
Nope. Nothing to see here.
Have another beer. 😅
I raise my next glass to you, sir.
Hi Roger. Too bad we are (probably) separated by an ocean, otherwise we might be tipping back a mug. I shared a bit of a sip with NJ Election Advisor on his recent trip to Japan. He helped restore a bit of faith in humanity.
Cheers to ya!
At night, when it's dark, I can see the flames from my residence. As the crow flies, I live about 7 or 8 miles away and in an open area, so I am in no danger from this. Unless the wind shifts direction and blows the smoke my way, I am not impacted personally at all. I do know people who live near the fire, friends who are probably a mile or two away. They have every reason to be concerned, especially if the wind changes and drives the flames down the slope, putting them and their homes in jeopardy.
If this fire had started a month or six weeks ago, it would have exploded violently out of control due to an extended period of very hot (100+ degrees) and dry weather. At that time, the forests in this area were tinder dry and. if ignited, could have easily created a monster which might have dwarfed the Lolo Peak fire from 2017. However, it's late August, the weather has cooled down considerably, and we've had some rain, intermittent at times, but also drenching downpours. The conditions for a massive wildfire have changed dramatically over the last few weeks which is good for those who live in the area.
That being said, the question arises as to how this fire should be handled. In an intense debate with some friends on a local group thread, I stated that it should be allowed to burn out and only monitored until it seemed like it might threaten homes and buildings of property owners, at which point protective measures should be implemented. There was some strong opposition to this, with one view being expressed that every effort should be taken to stamp it out as it could, if allowed to burn, create a hazard and risk for homeowners.
Well, it might, but there are is no certainty that it will. Considering everything, odds are that it won't, even if it burned unimpeded. At least, that is my opinion, for what it's worth.
As a society, we have to come to grips with the reality within our national forests. Due to restrictions and prohibitions on logging, clear-cutting, and thinning, plus the Smokey Bear mentality that every fire MUST be extinguished immediately, the forests are now clogged with undergrowth and litter which guarantees that, once a fire starts, it will burn hotter and more destructively than it would have if proper management had been implemented. Clear thinking and logical reasoning should be the drivers of forest policy rather than emotional ignorance and refusal to make the hard choices which are necessary to ensure the long-term health and well-being of these treasures, the national forests which we call "ours".